SEELANGS
The Slavic and East European Languages and Literatures List
Last updated: November 6, 2013
***** WELCOME! *****
Any Questions? Write to: SEELANGS-Request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Please save this e-mail for future reference!
Thank you for your interest in SEELANGS, the Slavic and East European
Languages and Literatures discussion list.
This Welcome message contains:
o Information on controlling your own subscription
o List guidelines
Any Questions? Write to: SEELANGS-Request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
SEELANGS exists to facilitate discussion of topics of interest
to teachers and students of Russian and other Slavic and East
European languages and literatures. Use the list in furtherance
of that general goal. But please, do not treat SEELANGS or its
members with disrespect. Profanity is not welcome, nor is
language which demeans or belittles other people or groups of
people. It is further expected that list members will conduct
themselves in a mature and polite manner towards fellow list
members. "Flames" will not be tolerated. The list owner reserves
the right to take any action he feels appropriate to ensure the
smooth operation of the list.
***** LISTSERV’S WEB INTERFACE *****
SEELANGS is an e-mail discussion list. Despite casual references to
the contrary in popular use, an e-mail discussion list is not “a
listserv.” “LISTSERV” is a registered trademark (of L-Soft,
incorporated) and refers to the server on which lists are hosted, not
to the lists themselves. One LISTSERV server will typically host
numerous lists.
As a SEELANGS list member, you will communicate with the LISTSERV
server for a number of reasons, such as when you want to post to the
list, alter your subscription options, search the archives, or update
your subscription address. There are two ways to communicate with the
LISTSERV server: 1) e-mail and 2) Web interface. Instructions for
using the e-mail method are included in the relevant sections of this
message, below. To use the Web interface, you will use your Web
browser (e.g., Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Chrome, etc.).
The Web Interface can be found on the SEELANGS Web site, which is here:
http://seelangs.wix.com/seelangs
To utilize the LISTSERV’s Web Interface (which is only optional, but
recommended), you must register a LISTSERV password, which LISTSERV uses to authenticate you as authorized to perform whatever function you wish to perform. To register your password, you will need to use your Subscription Address (the e-mail address from which you are
currently subscribed to SEELANGS) and a password of your own
choosing. You can register a LISTSERV password here:
http://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?GETPW1
There is also a link to that page on the page of the SEELANGS Web
site called "LISTSERV Web Interface." Should you ever forget your
LISTSERV password, don’t panic. Just return to that same page and
register a new one. The new password overwrites the old one.
If you choose not to utilize the Web interface for sending routine
commands, you can use e-mail. All LISTSERV commands are sent in the
body of e-mail (not in the Subject: line) to:
The same one-line commands that you can send in the body of e-mail can
also be entered using the Web interface. There’s a shortcut on the
SEELANGS Web site labeled “Send a Command.”
***** POSTING TO SEELANGS *****
To post to the list, just compose your message and send it to the list
address, which is:
Whatever you send to that address gets sent back out to all
subscribers of the list.
Also, in general, whenever you post to the list, though not required,
you are encouraged to “sign” your submissions by including at the
bottom both your name and academic affiliation (if any), so that other
list members can know who you are and consider the source of your
words.
***** OPTIONS FOR RECEIVING SEELANGS MAIL *****
There are three ways to receive mail from the list. You can alter
your subscription options using e-mail, as described below, or you can
use the Web interface. Use of the Web interface assumes that you have
already registered a LISTSERV password, as described above. Visit the
SEELANGS Web site, click on "LISTSERV Web Interface," and then click
on “Subscriber’s Corner."
1) MAIL - Each individual message is sent to you as soon as it’s
posted. (On the Web interface, this option is described as “Regular.”)
2) DIGEST - All messages are bundled into just one, two or three
messages sent to you each day.
3) INDEX - A listing of the messages posted is sent to you just one,
two or three times each day. You select from that listing which
messages you want to read. (If using the Web interface, we suggest
using “Index (HTML format).”
-- MAIL --
MAIL is the default option. When your subscription options are set
to MAIL, you receive one piece of new e-mail for every message
distributed on the list. If you'd like to receive posts from the
list in this manner, you need not do anything; you're already set up.
SEELANGS averages about 15 to 20 posts per day.
-- DIGEST --
The second option is called DIGEST. If, rather than receive 20 (or so)
pieces of mail from the list every day, you'd like to receive only two
or three pieces of e-mail in which are bundled all those 20 posts, send
the command:
SET SEELANGS DIGEST
in the body of e-mail to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
The number of daily DIGESTs you get will depend on how many posts
are sent to the list in a given day and how long they are. Each
DIGEST will be no longer than 800 lines of text. When LISTSERV
reaches that number, it sends out a DIGEST and starts the next
one. In other words, the number of daily DIGESTs you get from
day to day will not be constant (but will likely not exceed three).
-- INDEX --
The third option is called INDEX. If you like the idea of receiving
only two or three pieces of mail per day from the list, but don't want
to have to sift through all 20 (or so) posts, you can have LISTSERV
send you only a listing (index) of the posts distributed that day that
includes the message number, the sender, and the subject line for each
post. Looking at the listing, you can then decide which messages you
want to read. To read a message, you just click on the message number
and the post opens in a Web browser window.
If you choose to use this method, send the command:
SET SEELANGS INDEX MIME HTML
in the body of e-mail to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
NOTE: If you choose to use this second method, you must also register
a LISTSERV password, as described above near the top of the Welcome
message. The first time you click to read one of the posts you will be
prompted for your subscription address and LISTSERV password.
However, once you enter that information and click the Login button,
your information is saved in a cookie on your hard drive and you will
not be bothered with that intermediate step again (unless you change
subscription addresses).
-- Switching Back --
Should you choose to use DIGEST or INDEX and later decide to switch
back to the default method of receiving list mail, send the command:
SET SEELANGS MAIL
(Hint: SET SEELANGS NODIGEST or SET SEELANGS NOINDEX will also work.)
in the body of e-mail to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
NOTE: Whenever you send e-mail to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
you can put anything you want in the Subject: line, or leave it blank;
LISTSERV ignores it anyway.
NOTE: You must send a *new* e-mail to that address if you'd like
to use one of these options. Replying to this message will not
work.
***** CHANGING YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS WITH SEELANGS *****
If you should change Internet Service Providers or otherwise get a
new e-mail address and you want your SEELANGS mail sent to the new
address, you do not have to re-subscribe. There are three ways to go
about changing your subscription address.
The first, and easiest, method is to do it yourself using e-mail, but
it will only work if your existing subscription address is still
accessible and functional. Using your existing subscription address,
simply send the command:
CHANGE SEELANGS your-new-address
(inserting your own new e-mail address) in the body of e-mail to:
In reply, LISTSERV will send a confirmation message. Confirm the
change, and it will be made.
The second way to update your subscription address is to use the Web
interface. This method, too, assumes that your current subscription
address still exists and you can access it. Assuming you’ve already
saved your LISTSERV password in a cookie, just go to the SEELANGS Web site, click on "LISTSERV Web Interface," and then click on “Subscriber’s Corner.” In the “Your E-Mail Address” field, replace your current address with your new address and then click on “Update Options.” Once your subscription address has been changed, you will have to register a new LISTSERV password.
You should avail yourself of the third method only if you can't get
either of the first two methods to work for you (e.g., if you don't
have web access or no longer have access to your old e-mail address).
The third method involves asking the list owners for help. Write
them at the list owners' address:
SEELANGS-Request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Explain that you would like your subscription address updated.
Remember to include your name and old subscription address in
your message. The list owners will then update your subscription
address at their earliest convenience.
***** HOW TO STOP THE MAIL IF YOU’RE GOING AWAY *****
If you’re going away on vacation or will otherwise be away from your
computer for any period of time, you may want to stop the list mail
from coming while you're gone. There are two ways to do it.
The easiest way is to use e-mail. To stop the mail via e-mail, send
the command:
SET SEELANGS NOMAIL
in the body of e-mail to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
When you come back and want to start it again, send mail to that same
address containing the command:
SET SEELANGS MAIL
The second way involves making use of the Web Interface. You will
have to have registered a LISTSERV password, as described above. Go
to the SEELANGS Web site, click on "LISTSERV Web Interface," and
then click on “Subscriber’s Corner.” Scroll down to the section marked
"Miscellaneous," click on the box next to "Mail delivery disabled
temporarily," and then click on "Update." To start the mail up again,
just return to that page, uncheck the box, and click on “Update.”
***** UNSUBSCRIBING FROM SEELANGS *****
If you should ever decide to leave the list permanently, you can
unsubscribe by sending the command:
SIGNOFF SEELANGS
in the body of e-mail to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
You can also unsubscribe on the "Subscriber’s Corner" page of
the SEELANGS Web Interface.
***** RENEWING YOUR SUBSCRIPTION TO SEELANGS *****
Your SEELANGS subscription never expires and you will never be
asked to renew. LISTSERV assumes that if you remain subscribed
then you want to remain subscribed. However, every three months,
LISTSERV will check to see whether you're still receiving mail
at your subscription address. If it detects a permanent problem,
LISTSERV will automatically remove you from the list. Likewise,
if SEELANGS mail sent to you starts to bounce back as undeliverable,
LISTSERV will check to see whether the problem is permanent. If it
is, or if more than 200 error messages are received, LISTSERV will
remove you from the list. If you should ever find yourself removed
from the list against your wishes, you may simply resubscribe.
***** SEARCHING THE SEELANGS ARCHIVES *****
All messages posted to SEELANGS are archived and the archives can
be searched by any list member. The easiest way to search the
archives is via the SEELANGS Web Interface. Using your web browser,
go to the SEELANGS Web site and click on “Search the Archives.”
(Searches can be performed using e-mail, too. If you have no access
to a Web browser, write the list owners for help with searching the
archives using e-mail.)
In addition, SEELANGS participates in the “Mailing List Project”
coordinated by The LINGUIST List. That project, funded by a grant
from the National Science Foundation, involves centralizing
in a single location the archives of as many language-related
discussion lists as possible. Among other things, it will mean
that archives from all those lists will be available to a single,
flexible search engine and a user will be able to initiate
a search ranging over multiple lists, including SEELANGS. The
LINGUIST List archives page can found at the following URL:
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/
***** LIST GUIDELINES *****
The guidelines below are essentially a codification of net
etiquette. They are designed to promote a virtual culture
which is considerate of list members’ time and resources
while at the same time is not wasteful of SEELANGS’ own
resources. All list members are strongly urged to comply
with these guidelines. No enforcement measures are currently
planned in connection with the violation of these guidelines,
but the list owners, at their own discretion, may contact
off-list people who violate the guidelines and request that
they comply thereafter.
***** USE OF THE LIST *****
There are many people subscribed to SEELANGS. Most are instructors
or students of one type or another, and all of them presumably have
some interest in Slavic Languages and Literatures. List members’
specific areas of interest vary, as does the knowledge they bring
to our discussions. Please remember that every other list member
is deserving of your respect, and conduct yourself accordingly when
posting.
Specifically, remember that “Slavic Languages and Literatures” is
what brings people to this list, yet not every post will contain
a question or comment fitting neatly under that heading. If you
are concerned that someone has posted something falling, in your
opinion, too far from the central purpose of the list, do not
write to the entire list to express your displeasure. Instead,
first understand that there must be some amount of wiggle room on
a list like SEELANGS, as there will be small differences in what
subscribers expect to see here. If you are new to the list, please
observe for awhile to see the uses to which most members put it.
If you must voice your opposition to the fact that a given subject
has been raised on the list, please write directly to the list
owners, as they will be in a position to take action, or explain
why taking action is not warranted. The list owners can be
reached by writing to:
SEELANGS-Request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
For purposes of clarification, please note that the discussion of
discrete political matters is not welcome on SEELANGS. However,
as political and other concerns have influenced Slavic Languages
and Literatures, if posting on such a theme, use common sense and
recognize when your contribution has ceased to be about aiding
linguistic comprehension, and has begun to be purely political.
There are many other discussion lists and similar on-line discussion
forums that exist solely for the discussion of politics, and you
should not confuse SEELANGS with them.
***** PERSONAL REPLIES *****
Because each message sent to the list address is distributed to
all list members, personal messages and replies should not be posted.
If you wish to reply only to the original sender of a post, make
sure your reply is directed to that person and not to the list
address (seelangs@listserv.ua.edu). If you wish to contact only
one subscriber, yet do not know that person's personal e-mail address,
do not use the list address to write him. Instead make use of the
SCAN SEELANGS command or write the list owners for assistance.
Example: SCAN SEELANGS Smith
VERY IMPORTANT: When you just use the Reply feature of your e-mail
program while reading a SEELANGS post, your reply is directed back
to SEELANGS, *not* to the person who posted. Your failure to
realize this fact is what gets most people in trouble when it comes
to sending personal replies to the list address.
***** QUOTING TEXT FROM ORIGINAL MESSAGES *****
Because all posts to SEELANGS are archived, and because disk
space is a finite resource, list members are asked to pay
close attention when they reply to messages on the list and
quote text. Including portions of original messages is fine,
as long as it’s done to provide context for the reader and
is done selectively. However, quoting entire original
messages within the body of replies, when the original messages
are more than just a few lines, is prohibited. Not only
does it fill up our disk space with extraneous text, but
those list members receiving SEELANGS in DIGEST format are
forced to read through the same messages three and four
times.
***** ATTACHMENTS AND ENCODED MESSAGES *****
When sending messages to SEELANGS, please use only plain
ASCII text. Do not attach executables or files, including
images or sounds. Do not format your messages in base64,
MIME, or html. Such formatting and use of attachments may
result in the archival of great amounts of unnecessary text,
which is a waste of our resources, and not all subscribers
use mail clients capable of decoding such things. List members
who use Microsoft's Outlook Express should pay special
attention, as the default formatting with that program is
text/html, and a manual change in its configuration must be
made prior to posting to the list.
If you must post a small amount of text in the original Cyrillic,
please also include a transliteration using plain text, as not
everyone uses an e-mail program capable of decoding Cyrillic.
***** ADVERTISING ON SEELANGS *****
Since only subscribers have the ability to post to SEELANGS,
no outside entity will post advertisements directly to the
list. From time to time the list owner receives requests
from vendors of Slavic-related merchandise to distribute
information about that merchandise to the list membership.
If the list owner determines that the information may be of
interest, he may forward it to the list if the vendor complies
with the following conditions:
The advertisement will:
o briefly identify the company
o briefly describe the product(s)
o NOT contain any price information or dollar amounts
o request that any interested parties contact the vendor directly for
further information
o contain vendor contact information
o NOT be more than 60 lines of text
List members who wish to advertise businesses or products
in which they have a financial interest are discouraged from
doing so on SEELANGS if the businesses or products have
nothing to do with Slavic languages or literature. If they
do have something to do with Slavic languages or literature,
list members are asked to comply with the above guideline.
NOTE: The above guideline regarding advertising on SEELANGS
does not apply to seminar and conference announcements.
Such announcements may contain dollar amounts and, due to the
occasional inclusion of forms, may exceed 60 lines of text. If
posting an announcement or including a form, please be sure to
insert your own “Reply-To:” tag in your out-going mail header or
write the list owners for assistance if you do not know how that
is accomplished.
Remember, please save this e-mail for future reference! If you
delete or lose it, you can always grab a copy of the current
version of this Welcome message by sending the command:
GET SEELANGS WELCOME
in the body of e-mail to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
For your convenience, you can also find it on-line on the
SEELANGS Web site.
Virtually,
The SEELANGS management team - SEELANGS-Request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
- Alex Rudd
- Robert Whittaker
- Darren Evans-Young